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22 Nov
The REAL Thanksgiving?

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From: Peter Langston <psl>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 99 12:08:43 -0800
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Subject: The REAL Thanksgiving?

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From: Andrea Smith <>

HAPPY TURKEY DAY!!!!!!!! to all those who celebrated. "Thanksgiving Day was
first officially proclaimed by the governor of Massachusetts Bay Colony in
1637 to commemorate the massacre of 700 Indian men, women and children who
were celebrating their annual green corn dance Thankgiving Day to them-in
their own house," William Newell, 84, said recently.

"Gathered in this place of meeting they were attacked by mercenaries and
english and dutch. The Indians were ordered from the building and as they
came forth they were shot down. The rest were burned alive in the building,"
he said.  Newell based his research on studies of Holland documents and the
13-volume colonial Documentary History, both thick sets of letters and
reports from colonial officials to their superiors and the king in England,
and the private papers of sir William Johnson, British Indian agent for New
York colony mfor 36 years in the mid 1600's.

Newell, a Penobscot Indian, has degrees from Syracruse and the University
of Pennsylvania and is a former chairman of the University of Connecticut
Anthropology department. Based on this information, a nationwide call for
a "National Day of Mourning" is being called to those individuals who
support this effort in truth. We hope that many of you who read this join
us in a day of prayer and fast for healing.


The year was 1637.....700 men, women and children of the Pequot Tribe,
gathered for their "Annual Green Corn Dance" in the area that is now known
as Groton, Conn.

While they were gathered in this place of meeting, they were surrounded and
attacked by mercernaries of the English and Dutch.  The Indians were ordered
from the building and as they came forth, they were shot down. The rest were
burned alive in the building.

The next day, the Governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony declared : "A
day of Thanksgiving, thanking God that they had eliminited over 700 men,
women and children. For the next 100 years, every "Thanksgiving Day"
ordained by a Governor or President was to honor that victory, thanking God
that the battle had been won.

Source: Documents of Holland, 13 Volume Colonial Documentary History,
letters and reports form colonial officials to their superiors and the King
in England and the private papers of Sir William Johnson, Britsh Indian
agent for the New York colony for 30 years.

Researched by William B. Newell (Penobscot Tribe) Former Chairman of the
University of Connecticut Anthropology Department.

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Please Join Us in Celebrating

Ka La Ku'oko'a

Hawai'i's Independence Day

Sunday, November 28th, 1999

10:00 AM-1:00 PM

Kanaina Building (Old Archives), 'Iolani Palace Grounds

Ka La Ku'oko'a the same time as Thanksgiving from about 1844 until 1893.
It marks the day, November 28, 1843, that the Ali'i Timoteo Ha'alilio
succeded in obtaining the signatures of the authorities of Great Britain
and France on a treaty recognizing Hawai'i as a sovereign nation.

After meeting with U.S. President Tyler in Washington, D.C., Ha'alilio and
his secretary traveled to Belgium, Paris and London where the treaty was
finally signed. They returned to the United States to cement U.S.
agreement. On the journey, Ke Ali'i Timoteo Ha'alilio died, on December 3,

Although the treaty of independence did not solve Hawai'i's problems, it
was a substantial achievement under international law. This achievement was
recognized by the government of the Kingdom through the official celebration
of Ka La Ku'oko'a.

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